It's baked into the firmware as a parameter in how the spindle motor is driven. [–]kormer 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]SamirD 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), My thinking is that these are drives that failed qa at 7200 rpm and are binned for lower use applications and warranty. From the comments, it's only for WD, but not for Seagate. [–]Megalan24TB (48 RAW) 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (5 children). Drive are going to start getting bigger soon. Gyroscope, etc. They don't have easy store in Canada so this information is false sadly. Anyway, my point to the person asking if you can just buy HDDs for less is that they are the cheapest option for high capacity drives. Please teach me about what depopping is regarding disks. Seems redundant. [–]Choreboy 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]ipaqmaster72Tib ZFS 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). Now another partition is starting to corrupt itself, but it's not killing the I/O/response-time so the drive remains usable, though that partition isn't of much use now either. I wonder. I'm not sure that's the easiest thing to do, since my tower sitting right next to me has 9 drive bays waiting to be used and already paid for. Can anyone confirm? Thank you for signing up to Tom's Hardware. save. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Or is it a random HDD model with the WD white label slapped on it? I would've thought that businesses buy far more HDDs than consumers do. You can take off the screws by hand or with pliers, too. [–]AllMyName1.44MB x 4 RAID10 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). I would be curious to see a speed test. lowpowercomputingoooooohperfectbalance—!!! Whether they're physically different or not, have any real differences in their firmware, are binned based on quality, or are just cheaper with a shorter warranty and shipped like rust oysters is something only WD can tell us. You shouldn't really be able to hear the difference due to it being helium sealed, so it just could run at 7200rpm and nobody notices, [–]rochford77 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Are those easystore U.S. only ? I don't want to mess with Raid or set up another machine/NAS, but I also want to have some redundancy because I don't wanna risk 14TB of data. [–]holytoledo760 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). I'm guessing that the controller board is actually more complicated than your garden-variety USB-SATA dongle and that it serves some more advanced purpose, such as control of the drive's internal firmware. I recall (but not where) seeing a post that certain EasyStore interfaces wouldn't work if reused with other drives, but some would. One of these is Western Digital’s (WD) new 14TB Easystore, an external USB 3.0 with more than enough space for your modern needs. ;). Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Timetm). Best Buy has the WD Easystore 14TB desktop hard drive on sale for $249.99. It would be interesting to compare the DCM (Drive Component Matrix) information for the Best Buy drive to the HGST DC HC520. The vast majority of people don't even know what shucking is, let alone actually do it. I didn't mention all of these ideas previously, but these are the things I was thinking about when I made that comment about my dream where the drive reverts back to it's native state when it is divorced from the dongle. That one looks tough, but hopefully it's not glued. Most likely one head wasnt performing up to par and they waterfall the drive vs scrapping. Deep down inside everything will be the same, except for some minor firmware programming changes that alter the drive's behavior to suit that application. It refers to components that are "depopulated", either removed or not installed in the first place. Though I don't know that the drive manufacturers actually do this, the external interface card offers them the possibility of doing this. This Raspberry Pi Smart Fan HAT is Stackable and GPIO Friendly, SteelSeries Aerox 3 Review: Reliable, Hole-Filled Performer, Asus ROG Maximus XIII Extreme Glacial and XIII Hero Make An Appearance, Raspberry Pi Intercom: Keep in Touch at the Push of a Button. Seagate, for example. Given the frenzy that the Best Buy and Amazon sales have generated it is clear that the consumer market will bear that price enthusiastically. Damn! I can see that. But op's drive isn't a seagate, [–]SweetBearCub 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: We are digital librarians. With a crazy amount of storage for a relatively small amount of money, the WD Easystore 14TB comes NTFS-formatted and ready to go. Or wouldn’t pass QC at 7200 so they put a white label on it and put it in an enclosure rather than toss it? If you didn't turn it on 4 times, I take it as a bad sign. that's been slowed down to 5400-RPM for stuffing into the Best Buy packaging. But you should take a look at a 5400 RPM Red drive for comparison, not sure if there's a 14TB Red yet. ie, these are the bottom of the line 14TB drives wdc/hgst makes. Save wd easystore 14tb to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. Amazon has these cheap "jakemy" wanna be ifixit tool kits that are great for small electronic work. A $200 price point reflects today's true market value of a perfectly fine 14TB drive running at low speed with a two year warranty. The comment you're replying to is very well thought out and your reply raises an interesting question. I wonder because: curie effect (magnetic wear) would be less prone to happen in, say, a failure to exhaust motor and PCB heat buildup because of a lower operating temperature. WD Easystore 14TB External USB 3.0 Hard Drive . 99.9% of consumers are afraid to unscrew the side panel of their computer. Tom's Hardware is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. And could be updated with a firmware update? I'd love to get a dump of that EEPROM. Sort by. [–]R1ppedWarrior 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). The WD Easystore comes in 1TB up to 10TB, while the WD Elements Desktop comes in 1TB up to 14TB. It would be loaded with contamination at that point. Nice people respond to nice questions. This would be baked into the firmware on the drive's PCB. Help needed to scrape a publication off Archive.org, Amazon Is Suspending Parler From AWS in ~24 Hours. Is there possibly an updated WD lookup chart available? That's not what this post is about. This external hard drive regularly sells for up to $310, meaning you're saving $120 … I think a better track record over 18 years means something. [+]Danjour comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (1 child). free shipping. That would also explain why it appears to be the same mechanism, and why they sell these things so cheap -- if they're basically rejects from the HC520 production line, they're a sunk-cost and wrapping them in Easystore plastic is a way to recover cost by selling them into a less-demanding market. But it goes back to no one really knows and the people who shuck drives (like me) don't really care why anymore. For the record, you can also add two years of Best Buy's Geek Squad replacement cover for $19.99. Wasn't someone saying the 12tbs were really 14tbs at some point? [–]erich40890TB RAIDZ2 @10Gbps 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children). Suppose you put 6 platters in the drive but only 5 of them pass test, you disable the sixth. Extra Dumb Question: Lets say I buy 5 of those WD external drives. Bare drives are considered enthusiast or enterprise. [–]useful[S] 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (11 children), [–]echo465 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (10 children), [–]Mizerka160TB UnRaid 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (6 children). Plus i am looking for the exact model of the external drive. The WD Easystore is available in both 4 TB and 8 TB capacities. Just look at any thread even on this niche sub that talks shucking - there's always a few people asking what it is, and that is within a data hoarding sub. Just in case anyone is interested, here is a copy of the smart info that I dumped when I first plugged one in: It's interesting that on the WD140EFMZ drive, smart ID # 22 is reported as an "unknown attribute": On the HGST branded DC HC530 He12 drives, this "unknown attribute" is the Helium_Level: The numbers in those parameters look similar, don't they? [–]Blue-Thunder108 TB UNRAID -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (10 children). The SATA bus exists as a command and control interface for controlling the drive's behavior. The discussion here seems to point to PMR, but after sequential writing 9TB of files to one, it's sitting there buzzing and clucking a lot like my Seagate 8TB SMR. [–]CobsterLock 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (2 children), I remember hearing about theories that the 12 tb were actually 14tb drones with a few too many bad sectors. Bath All of the specifics will be put into a comparison … Because nobody owes you either. $250.00 to $280.00 - apply … I've got 23 drives between my file server and backups and all of them were shucked and all of them are still working. [–]AllMyName1.44MB x 4 RAID10 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Some of us remember the Deathstar fiasco under IBM. [–]Ruben_NL128MB SD card 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children). [–]Npc6754 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]SweetBearCub 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). Thanks. Well this sucks; it was at the sale price this morning but now that I'm ready to order it's back to $310. In fact 1x12TB might be a big upsell compared to the 1x6TB they actually need.. [–]shrine 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (0 children). Or does it power disable and need to have the pin covered. These are comparison of retail boxes, [–]JaspahX40TB 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago* (4 children), [+]derek53404 comment score below threshold-24 points-23 points-22 points 1 year ago (3 children), Best buy has them on sale right now. Having them as cold storage secondary backups beats just throwing them away. I only make this point to indicate that a new superset of bus commands is on it's way to us; the bus remains the same but the command set is changing. In other words: How to Read Model Numbers: WUH721414ALE6L4 – 14TB SATA 6Gb/s 512e Base (SE) with Legacy Pin 3 config: ** 512e models can be converted to 4Kn format and vice versa, y = Power Disable Pin 3 status(0 = Power Disable Pin 3 support, L = Legacy Pin 3 config – No Power Disable Support), 1 = SED* : Self-Encryption Drive TCG-Enterprise and Sanitize Crypto Scramble / Erase, 4 = Base (SE)* : No Encryption, Sanitize Overwrite only, 5 = SED-FIPS: SED w/ certification (SAS only), reference: (page 17) https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/product-manual-ultrastar-dc-hc530-sata-oem-spec.pdf. [–]N19h7m4r311 TB + Cloud 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (3 children). [–]T351A 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (2 children), It's weird because at some point you pay for the R&D more than the parts, [–]bearstampede 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). WD Easystore is Plug and Play Direct Attached Storage external drive. If the mac is showing most of the space available it means that its supported, [–]MEDDERX34TB 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (2 children), Of course this happens after I get the 12TB ones, [–]normanbi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]PrimaryContract 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]SupaZT60TB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Buzstringer 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]morpheus2n262.5TB -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (4 children), I still to this day can't work out how from a business perspective external drives sell for cheaper sometimes by as much as £150, when they know that 9 out of 10 they sell just get shucked lol, [–]merc08 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). $200 $310. They aren't marking down the drive when they put it in a USB enclosure, they are marking up the drive when they sell it bare. And we're trying really hard not to forget. I have a 1.5 TB WD Elements external drive P/N WDBAAU0010HBK-01 drive with a broken USB connector, which doesn't look like it can be shucked easily. Used to work for IBM. You might not want those extra 4TB if they're full of bad sectors... or maybe you would, I actually have some 2TB drives with bad sectors partitioned out to get over 1.5TB of usable space. [–]IsimplywalkinMordor 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [+]InstanceNoodle comment score below threshold-24 points-23 points-22 points 1 year ago (11 children), [–]Choreboy 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (10 children). But you'll find one of WD's 3.5-inch Helium drives inside, reportedly running at 5,400 RPM … [–]MEDDERX34TB 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Probably, bit its more the fact they are on sale for $200 and the 12tb were on sale for $180 (i think), [–]vfclists 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (21 children), [–]server_nerd 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (15 children). [–]aVarangian 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]Syde80 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (1 child), Depends on the laws about where the purchase was made. Someone can fuck with your warranty registration and leave you out to dry if you need support from WD, [–]SweetBearCub 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (9 children). Moving on to Part 2. We are one. Other vendors like WD, HGST and Toshiba were wise to avoid DM-SMR and continued to sell PMR drives, while they worked on the development of Host-Managed SMR to avoid the Device-Managed SMR problems. It's the loss of permanent magnetism due to the material reaching a certain temperature. Sorry you got down voted for asking a legitimate question. have u been able to test how load it is on random access? [–]InstanceNoodle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). USB 3.0 interface Offers an easy-to-use connection to devices. You'd be looking for either a 90Hz or 120Hz tone, for 5400 or 7200 rpm. An external drive could be moved during operation a lot faster than one built in to a pc. I know all about the dumb screws haha. Maybe I am dyslexic? I have only had performance problems when I had to move a lot of data between the arrays. ;-), [–]BradleyDS2 63 points64 points65 points 1 year ago (4 children). Price. 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